<human>:  Padma is trading cards with Robert. Padma started with 75 cards and traded 2 or her valuable ones for 10 of Robert's cards. Robert started with 88 of his own cards and traded another 8 of his cards for 15 of Padma's cards. How many cards were traded between both Padma and Robert?
<bot>: How many cards did Padma trade? ** Padma traded 2 + 15 of her cards = <<2+15=17>>17 cards.
How many cards did Robert trade? ** Robert traded 10 + 8 of his cards = <<10+8=18>>18 cards.
How many cards were traded between both Padma and Robert? ** In total, between both of them Padma and Robert traded 17 + 18 = <<17+18=35>>35 cards.
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