powertoenditassoonaspossible. Hehasalsooffered tomediateifitshould bedifficult forthemtoresolveitthemselves. Inthatregard, wecansaythat theofferofmediation bythePanAfricanist Congress -sincewearenotdirectly involved -stillstands, andwehopeitwillbeutilized. Weareconvinced thatitispossible toendthe violer.~ce inourcountry. It isalsopossible tocreatethedemocratic culture wearetalking aboutwithinthe oppressed majority inourcountry. Whatisrequired istheleadership, thewill andthecommitment. InthatregardthePanAfricanist Congress willplayitsrole inbringing thisabout. IwanttoinformtheCommittee thatforsometimetherehavebeenanumberof peopleconcerned abouttheposition ofthePanAfricanist Congress vis-a-vis the current developments, andtheso-called euphoria ofnegotiations thatisseenin apartheid SouthAfrica. ThePAC,fromtheveryoutset, tooktheposition ittakes today: thatwhathastobenegotiated inapartheid SouthAfricaisnotapartheid. NordoesthePACsubscribe totheformulation thatapartheid hastobedismantled, because ourunderstanding oftheworddismantle iscarefully separating thevarious components andputting themaside. Asoneofourfighters haspointed out,ifhe isgivenagunandisaskedtodismantle it,hehastomakesurehetakesoutthe various partsofthegunverycarefully. Shouldhedestroy anypartofitinthe process, heisquitelikelytobecourt-martialled. Wedonotwantanyoneinour country tocomebacksubsequently andputthosepartsbacktogether. Sowearenot talking aboutdismantling apartheid; wearetalking abouteradicating theevil systemofapartheid. i..-"i\C)EMS/ll A/SPC/44/PV.26 38 (Mr.Ebrahim, PAC) fthePan calluponthose ythingintheir ifitshould cansaythat notdirectly country. It utwithinthe ip,thewill playitsrole enanumberof 'is-a.-vis the tisseenin itionittakes notapartheid. bedismantled, ,ingthevarious ,edout,ifhe takesoutthe ,ofitinthe anyoneinour Sowearenot IgtheevilWecontinue tomaintain thatapartheid cannotbereformed; itmustbetotally eradicated. Wealsomaintain thatthegenuine vehicle forchangeinourcountry canneverbetheregime, butmustratherbetheoppressed anddispossessed majority. Itistheywhomustbeprepared; theircapacity toresist andtofight mustbestrengthened atalllevels: ideologically, organi~atjonally andmilitarily. IwanttosaythattheSouthAfrican racist regimeforaperiodoftimehas beenattempting tomakecontact withthePanAfricanist Congress. Theyhaveused several Western Governments tocontact us.Wehavemadeitabundantly cleartothe SouthAfrican racist regime andtothoseemissaries theysendtoDar-es-Salaam and elsewhere thatiftheregimewantstotalktothePanAfricanist Congress itmust dosoinwriting and,secondly, mustdosowithout anypre-conditions. Wemustsay thatlastmonthourPresident received aletter fromtheSouthAfrican Administration calling onthePACtotalktotheregime onanexploratory basis. Thedocument saidthatthePAChadbeeninvited unconditionally totalktothe regime, notfornegotiations butinexploratory talkstoascertain theposition. ThePanAfricanist Congress, becauseitisademocratic organization, correctly decided thatthislettershouldbewidelydiscussed atthegrass-roots leveloftheorganization, bothinternally andexternally. Thatprocess is currently goingon.Itisthemembership whichwillgivetheverdict onhowthe PanAfricanist Congress will r~spond totheletter. Butageneral consenSU$ nas already arisenasaresultofthisdebate. Iftheregimewantstoinformusof whatitthinks, weshouldaccordittherightatleasttotelluswhatitthinks. Weshouldalsoutilize theopportunity totelltheregimewhatwethink. We believe thisiswhatanyserious organization woulddo.I,,, EMS/ll A/SPC/44/PV.26 39-40 (Mr.Ebrahim, PAC)RM/ Butthereisaproblem thatstillhastobeovercome, namelythecomposition ofthedelegation ofthePanAfricanist Congress thatwouldparticipate inthe meeting -ifthemeeting takesplaceatall.ThePACwillinsist,first,thatthe composition ofthedelegation willbedecided solalybythePanAfricanist Congress ofAzaniaitself.Aza goi rej con tha swo ins JRMI7,. AlSPC/44/PV.26 41 (Mr. Ebrah~m, PAC) Secondly, ifmembers fromtheexternal wingofthePanAfricanist Congress of Azania (PAC)aretobeincluded inthatdelegation thenthemembers whowouldbe goingaspartofthatdelegation mustbegranted permanent indemnity. ThePACwill rejecttemporary indemnity because sinceweareintheprocess ofcreating a conducive climate wedonotbelieve thattheregimeshouldontheonehan~claim thatitwantstotalkandenterintoexploratory talksandatthesametimekeepa swordofDamocles hanging overthepersonsitwishestotalkto.Wewilltherefora insistthatthereshouldbeapermanent indemnity granted tothosepeople
**Analysis**
The text appears to be a speech or statement by a representative of the Pan-Africanist Congress (PAC) in Azania (now South Africa). The speaker is discussing the organization's stance on negotiations with the apartheid regime and the importance of ending the violent conflict in the country. The text does not mention economic development, natural resources, or environmental issues, but rather focuses on political and social issues.

**Category**
Politics, Humanitarian aid and relief